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- From: burchell@fox.nstn.ca (Paul Burchell)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Amiga vs. PC
- Date: 1 Mar 1996 06:05:22 GMT
- Organization: Nova Scotia Technology Network
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- >> I have own an Amiga 500 since it first arrived in 1987. The computer
- >> has worked very good, and I am very fond of it, although I don't use
- >> it too much now a days :)
- >>
- >> In 1993, I bought a 486-33 MHz PC, mainly because a lot of friends had
- >> one, and a lot of great programs was available. This, I believe is the
- >> only reason to own a PC, because the computer alone, sucks.
- >>
- >> I have a friend, who insists that the PC is superior over the Amiga. I
- >> tell him, that he can't compare a A500 with a Pentium, but try
- >> checking out the A4000. He believes the A4000 cannot compare either.
- >> I tell him about the Amigas true multitasking, and the PC's bad
- >> operating systems, and all the resources needed, but he just ignores
- >> it. I even tell him to look at some games. On the Amiga 500, if we
- >> play Project-X for example, the game runs smoothly, and every thing
- >> works fine. On the PC, however the graphics tends to get slow if there
- >> is alot of spaceships on the screen at once. The differences is
- >> enormous, even though the PC's processor is multiple times faster in
- >> theory.
- >>
- >> I wonder if anyone can give me some information about why the Amiga is
- >> so much faster than the PC. My belief is that the Amiga has a lot of
- >> processors for every single operation, ex. one for sound, one for
- >> graphics etc. In the PC, the mainprocessor does all the work. This is
- >> right, isn't it? I hope someone can answer me, and explain it in a way
- >> that I can convince my friend.
-
- >Actually, there are only two processors, the 68000 and the Copper. A
- >processor is capable of retrieving instructions from RAM and executing
- >them. Much of the graphics and sound on the Amiga are produced by DMA
- >channels, which operate independant of the CPU, but they are not
- >considered processors.
-
- >The Amiga has many DMA channels, (DMA means Direct Memory Access, no CPU
- >intervention) like disk DMA, sprite DMA, bit-plane (picture) DMA, Copper
- >instruction DMA and, of course, audio DMA. All of these occur without
- >interfering with one another. That means that you can read from a disk,
- >have sprites on the screen, have a picture displayed, have the Copper
- >running, and be playing sound all simultaniously, AND the CPU is still
- >free to do its thing.
-
- >The Copper needs explanation; it is a processor that can change the
- >hardware settings (like colors, what image is displayed, what resolution)
- >in the middle of the screen. That is why you can drag an Intuition
- >screen down to reveal another one that has different resolution and
- >colors. The copper waits for the screen position where the change is to
- >occur, and then it modifies the hardware to display the second screen.
- >All of this happens WITHOUT CPU intervention.
-
- >So in basic Amiga use, the CPU sets up the hardware (tells it what to do)
- >and then lets it go at it while itself is still free to do other things.
-
- >The 68000 processor (and most others) have the capability of being
- >interrupted. That means that a program that is running can be
- >interrupted without even knowing it, and then the interrupt handler will
- >prepare a different task (that was previously interrupted) to run. This
- >way tasks can switch without even knowing it, and with very minimal time
- >loss and minimal (actually no) memory usage. That is why your Amiga 500
- >can multitask comfortably with 512k of RAM and a (relatively) slow
- >processor.
-
- >> By the way, anyone have any info of the upcoming Amiga models. Will
- >> they be GREAT? Do you believe the Amiga will ever be, what it once
- >> were, eg. just as much people having an Amiga as before? Will the
- >> Amiga run PC-programs?
-
- >Your Amiga 500 has a modest range of display modes. Even with its
- >limitations, the hardware controlled functions make it very impressive in
- >spite of its drawbacks. Some hardware advantages are these: Consider
- >scrolling a screen from left to right (or up and down). On the Amiga,
- >the CPU (or Copper) simply tells the hardware to display the screen in a
- >new position. The screen data did not actually move, therefore the
- >operation was (almost) instant. That is why there are numerous
- >shoot-em-ups for the Amiga. Sprites move in the same fashion, providing
- >a pointer that dos not flicker when you move it or when graphics are
- >changed under it. When you move a window, the data must be actually
- >moved to a new location, so the blitter, which uses DMA channels also,
- >copies the data from one location to another. This still frees up the
- >CPU for other tasks, and provides fast refresh. When the CPU refreshes
- >the screen, it can be interrupted and such to slow it down, but the
- >blitter goes full-blast until it is done.
-
- >The Amiga 500 (without FAST RAM) has some trouble with CPU speed because
- >the DMA channels use up much of the RAM access time, not leaving as much
- >for the CPU. However, with FAST RAM, the CPU can run right along without
- >being slowed by the DMA channels.
-
- >The AGA (Advanced Graphics Architecture) chip set (which is in the Amiga
- >4000 and 1200) can display 256 colors in any screen resolution up to
- >1280x800, plus in HAM-8 mode it can display 262144 colors at any
- >resolution. Any Amiga graphics card will expand that to 24-bit, which is
- >16777216 colors. Some cards even go up to 1600x1200 in resolution. The
- >Amiga has a great base in graphics, because any program can depend on AT
- >LEAST what the machine comes with, which is decent. High powered
- >applications can take advantage of graphics cards, but ANY application
- >can depend on the basic built-in hardware.
-
- >Aside from hardware, the OS is way cool. Version 1.3 is not that
- >exciting, but 3.1 is just awesome. It looks cool, the screens operate
- >nicely, buggy programs are handled better, and it is faster in some
- >ways. Note also that the ROM contains the entire operating system, (with
- >the exception of some minor patches) and it is only 512k. How big is
- >Windows 95? The latest Mac OS is 4 megabytes of ROM. About screens, Ive
- >used other OSs quite a bit, and I always end up with one big cluttered
- >screen that I am stuck with. On the Amiga, many applications open their
- >own screen, clearing up the Workbench for general use.
-
- >Just a general statement about computer users. Im not sure which way it
- >goes, but either the computer makes the user have a certain personality,
- >or the personality of the person determines which machine they prefer. I
- >dont want anyone to take offense at my next statements, this is a general
- >observation that does not always hold true. The Mac operating system is
- >very haughty. It acts like the user has nothing up-stairs and assumes it
- >knows everything. I suspect that this was the nature of the designers
- >and it carried into the OS. Mac users also seem to have that same
- >atitude. PCs are very direct and to-the-point. They are logical, even
- >though their logic is so vast. PC users seem to also be that way. They
- >like to think of everything in terms of Mhz, MBs, ns, resolution, colors
- >and the whole gammet. The Amiga was designed by a dedicated group of
- >people that believed in what they were doing. They had spirit, emotion
- >and pride. That same spirit shows up all over the machine. Amiga users
- >share that same pride in their machine, they see things through different
- >eyers than other platform users. Some people simply dont deserve an
- >Amiga, they wont like it when they have it, because its MHz, MBs, and so
- >forth dont add up the same.
-
- >> Sorry for all the questions, and the long mail. I have been off the
- >> "game" for a long time. I want to be updated..
-
- >My turn to be sorry for the long mail... I probably should have sent it
- >directly to you rather than posting it to all. Or maybe I should just
- >keep my mouth shut.
-
- >> Thanks in advance,
- >>
- >> Einar B Gilberg
-
- >My pleasure,
- >:=Rob=:
- That was well said! i'm gonna capture this message & display it on my BBS(At
- logon) so IBM Users can see it:) i live in a Small town so not many Amiga
- Users,matter of fact there are only 2 that call my BBS:))
- i have 5 Amigas, & love them,the Amiga is more then a Computer to me,it's my
- Best Friend,i'm sure all Amiga Users feel the same
-
- Paul..
-
- ** New Waterford Nova Scotia,CANADA
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